How are plants benefited by being edible?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 28-07-2010

Obviously some plants are poisonous, and for good reason, they have evolved defense mechanisms in the form of toxins so that they can survive and avoid being eaten. Yet some plants are edible. Why? How does it serve a carrot, for example, or a turnip to be edible? Because by being edible the entire plant dies, often before it flowers and has a chance to reproduce itself.

I can understand why fruits are edible, to attract animals for seed dispersal, and also because an animal can eat fruit without killing the plant that made it. But why are plants themselves edible, especially when some aren’t? Wouldn’t it make better evolutionary sense for all plants to be poisonous, but obviously to sustain the food chain simply produce edible fruits, seeds, nuts, beans, grains, or flowers?

And one other thing, if fruits can be consumed without harming a plant and aid in seed dispersal, why would any fruit be poisonous and inedible (such as the tomato-like fruit of the potato plant)?

you seem to be asking many questions wrapped around one question, which may be more easily answered separately.

first, why are carrots edible?
the carrot that you see today at your supermarket is a monster. it is unnatural, a construct of human agriculture. go see what a wild carrot looks like–its roots are scawny, undeveloped, certainly unappetising. why would a carrot choose to fatten itself with starch so that it can be eaten? to survive. it made evolutionary sense for it to fatten itself, because in doing so, it got selected–not naturally selected by the elements of nature by by the hand of the farmer. after generations of choosing the carrots who were fatter, longer, and more orange in colour, the farmer ensured that these species survived over the less appetising. so imagine you are a wild carrot again, would you choose to be unnutritious, inedible and maybe even posionous, protecting yourself from advancing predators who would eat you but in doing so lose out to the protection agriculture gives to your other fellow carrots who choose to be fat, wholesome and delicious and hence get to produce offspring and pass down their lineage? (side note, obviously plants dont get conscious choice to all this, but the concept is the same, that of selection, whether arfiticial or natural)

second, why plant parts (other than the fruits for obvious reasons) edible?
it makes evolutionary sense for a plant to be inedible. but it also makes perfect evolutionary sense for animals to be able to consume plants. so simply (too simply) put, whose ‘evolutionary sense’ wins in the end? lets take a simple example. imagine a world where all plants have edible fruits and inedible other plant parts (i.e. leaves, stems, roots etc) and all animals only ate the edible fruits. sounds like a perfect world where each gets what so desires. Now one day in this world, one of the animals (who would ordinarily only eat the fruits) learnt how to eat the leaves of the plant, to digest the leaves and gain nutrition out of the digested leaves. This said animal obviously gained some advantage over the rest of his peers, because he could utilise a source of nutrition no other animal could. He had to spend less time finding fruits, more time resting, growing and reproducing. overtime, he had more offspring, who like him, were able to eat leaves. soon the balance shifted, the population make up of the animal community changed, there were much more dual (leaf and fruit) eaters as compared to just fruit eaters. this happens in nature and cannot be stopped. we can talk of what the optimal outcome is (just like the ideal world at the beginning whereby plants just produce some edible parts to sustain the food chain for the animals who happily eat only those edible plant parts so every one as a whole is happy) but the natural selection does not favour this, it favours only selfish gains.

lastly, why are some plants poisonous and some arent? (and conversly why are some fruits edible and some arent?)
by poisonous you mean poisonous to humans? be careful not to make this too human centric. what is food to you may be posion to another animal. the pong pong fruit is poisonous to humans but im sure some other animals do eat it, quite satisfyingly. no plant can be poisonous to every predator. being poisonous to some may by default make it edible to others. why? different species have different physiology, and are harmed / helped by different chemicals. secondly, to a plant, producing a poison incurs a cost. if you invest in being defensive using poison you lose out on being able to grow and reproduce. if your growth and reproduction were hindered by predators constantly eating your leaves / flowers / fruits etc, then perhaps it would make more sense for you to invest in being poisonous. yet if you invest in being more poisonous you may very well give up the opportunity of growth and reproduction. There is always a cost / benefit tug of war. evolution favours the more efficient outcome, which may not always involve becoming poisonous.

Best plants for hiding a high fence?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 25-07-2010

I have an six foot high fence i want to hide with clematis plants or some other type of climbing foliage.What would you recommend i should plant?If i plant clematis(or anything else) how far apart should i plant them and how would i have to take care of them?..do they require cutting back every year?
Thank you for sharing Ronald.The passion fruit vine is beautiful.The flowers are so pretty.Alas,i live in the UK and our weather is not suited to growing the passion fruit plant.Thank you all the same.
Namaste.

I’m trying to do the same thing as you. This is the idea I came up with.

Clematis is very nice because it does bloom all season long. But it don’t stay green in the winter.

Plant English ivy. They come in solid green and white and green. You can mix the two. You don’t need any supports for the ivy because it attaches it self right to your fence. It grows little stickies.
So now you have a fence that stay’s green even in the winter. And it grows very fast and spreads really quickly saving you time and money.

Now for some color!

Take the clematis and plant that right in front of the ivy. Let it grow right over it. You can even buy some other flowering vines and climbing roses and have all your colors climb right on top of your Ivy. Your Ivy will be a nice green back drop. Keeping color in your yard year around.

Plant your flowers 3 feet apart. The ivy can be planted at any distance.

What plants are good to put in a reptile tank?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 23-07-2010

I have two anoles. Right now I have ivy growing in the tank (water collects on the leaves really well) and a fake plant as well as some twigs.

I would love to take the fake plant out and have only real plants in there.

What plants are safe for the anoles? Preferably something they could climb on and possibly has flowers.

Any ideas?

Anoles are insectivorous, which would mean that the following list is recommended.
I’d personally recommend spider plants and ficus….both will provide great climbing paths for your little guys!

Where the reptiles and amphibians do not eat the vegetation, some plants that are often recommended for terrariums include:
Pothos
Spider Plants
Bromeliads
Snake Plants (Sanseveria sp.)
Ficus
Dwarf Schefflera
Orchids
Peperomia
Ponytail Palms
African Violets

Melissa Kaplan has also assembled a more extensive list of plants suitable for terrariums, which can give you a good starting point (again, for non-herbivorous species).

What plants should I plant in my garden bed?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 16-07-2010

I want a simple looking bed, with easy to take care of plants. I have a separate section of my backyard for vegetables and herbs and stuff, so I want the garden bed to look simple. What types of plants should I plant there?

It depends on where you live. I live in a desert so plants like sage, sedum, lavender, sunflowers, yarrow ect are very good and require little water.
If you live in a more humid climate, day lilies are very proliferous and look good, maybe some buck-eye daisies, astilbe, bergenia, hosta and butterfly flowers are a few good ones. Check out this web site for more ideas.
http://www.flower-gardening-made-easy.com/easy-care-perennials.html

I would look for perinnials so that you never have to replant, and find stuff that blooms at different times of the year, so that the garden is always pretty.

good luck!

How important are plants in a fishtank?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 20-06-2010

How important are plants in a fishtank? I have four african cichlids, I had like 3 plants in the tank. But after a while they ate em up, now I can barely see the roots of those plants.
I heard the plants are important for fish, for O2. I have a bubbler for the fishtank though. Is it important to have plants in the tank for any other reason?

Plants and fish help each other and help stabilize an ecosystem. First of all, a plant will provide fish with a natural hiding spot in the event that it becomes startled or frightened. Its even considered a good sleeping place. Some fish like to sleep on plants too (labyrinth fish especially).

Second, people are often intimidated by the Nitrogen Cycle and usually end up buying very expensive commercial products to cycle their tanks. Plants are usually cheaper than these commercial products and help a great deal with the Nitrogen Cycle because aquatic plants can consume anything with Nitrogen in it as fertilizer. So basically, ALL the components of your Nitrogen Cycle (Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrates) CAN be taken by plants as food. Fish will excrete Ammonia primarily through their gills. Plants can remove this from the water and make your water safer. This is by FAR better than commercial cycling bacteria.

Also, plants consume fish poop as fertilizer, but they wont "clean" it for you, you still need to siphon it out. And, plants take in carbon dioxide from your water and with light convert it to oxygen and glucose for your fish. In a planted tank, shaking the surface with air stones is not good. It allows oxygen to enter, yes, but it will also allow precious carbon dioxide to escape. If you just wait, and give your plants sufficient light, they can convert the carbon dioxide to oxygen naturally. Don’t forget that if you have plants in your tank, they will compete against algae for nutrition and slow its growth. If you have really fast growing plants, they can sometimes completely stop algae growth all together.

Finally, some fish like to give birth in plants, or lay their eggs in plants too. They basically see plants as a good nursery or a hiding spot. Moss is very good for fry as it holds all sorts of microorganisms which fry can eat in their early days. Also, it gives fish fry cover from adults.

You probably need plants that have broad leaves so your fish simply don’t eat them up. Try some Anubias Nanas or Java Ferns. But the benefits of plants are too many to mention. Seriously.

What plants can be helpful on an adventure hike?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 27-05-2010

I am going on a backpacking hike, and I want to know what plants can help me. I know that there is a plant that can help stop bloody noses, and a moss you can eat, but is there other plants that can help, like one that can stop bleeding? If you could help, I would really appriciate it! Thanks!

dandelion leaf tea are good for belly aches. Rosemary tea is good for increasing the heart rate, and it is said to help memory loss. Pine needle, and spruce tea is good for kidney problems.

How many tomato plants can I fit in a 9 inch wide by 6 inch deep hanging basket?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 02-05-2010

I have some plants that I want to plant in a hanging basket that used to hold three bushes in it. It is 9 inches wide on the top and 6 inches deep on the sides. Would it be good enough to fit just three tomato plants in it, or would it be able to fit four?

I wouldn’t put any in a hanging basket. Tomato plants grow upward and outward. They can be up to 4 ft tall and about a 1 1/2 feet wide. It is not good to have tomato pants crowded together either because they will not blossom properly. It would be better to get a floor planter about 3 feet long a foot and a half wide and about a foot deep. You can fit 3 small tomato plants in that.

What plants can i get to plant outside that dosent require alot of sun?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 30-04-2010

I have a flower bed outside that needs plants in it but it doesn’t get morning sun there…just afternoon. so I’m wondering what plants i can get that are easy to take care of and doesn’t require to much sun. Thanks
I live in texas so it has to be a plant thats in texas!
and by galveston so itll get salt air

You should go talk to the folks at Tom’s Thumb on 45th street in Galveston. I can think of quite a few plants that would work well there. Macho Ferns, Foxtail Ferns, Philodendron, Ixora, Crotons, Dwarf Mexican Petunia, I’ve got some tropical hibiscus that only get afternoon sun and are constant bloomers. You could put several different palms there, a Pigmy Date is just one possibility.

Does growing marijuana plants for a shorter amount of time better for more buds?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 28-04-2010

Does growing your plants shorter produce more buds on the plant itself?I heard something about vegging for a shorter amount of time and the plant will produce more.Just wondering if its true or not.
Some people on this website are so imature.I have a card that allows me to grow legally.Consider the fact some people dont use it for childish purposes.

Typically, the bigger the plant, the more bud. If allowed to grow to its full genetic capacity, most sativa strains would grow 12-15 feet tall. Indoors, this is impractical. Plants can be trained; bent and tied to limit their height. They can be topped; trimmed to cause more branching and less height. They can be force flowered at an early stage so that they only grow to a height your space can accommodate. Multiple small plants can be force flowered very young Sea of Green or SOG) to produce many small budding plants that can equal one larger one in terms of yield. A plant can also be trained to spread out and grow through a wire mesh, exposing more branches and their buds to light and thus encouraging more bud growth (SCROG or Screen of Green) Vegging for a shorter time results in smaller plants, and usually less bud unless other methods to increase bud production are used.

What can I do to my house plants to keep my cats from eating them, and what’s a safe plant to test it on?

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Posted by admin | Posted in Plants | Posted on 26-04-2010

My inside cats eat my house plants! Is there something that I can do to my plants to make them unappealing to my cats that’s safe for my cats and my plants, and if so, is there a specific plant that’s safe for cats that I can use to try it first to make sure that it works for my cats before I take the risk of putting all of my plants where the cats can get to them?

I wouldn’t have any houseplants (real ones) in my house with my cats. If they are one of the poisenous ones (which are many) your cat could end up with seizures, heart failure, any number of things.

I’d take them outside in a shaded area or somewhere where they won’t get too cold since they’re indoor plants.